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	<title>Comments on: Why ayePhone</title>
	<link>http://www.cianw.co.uk/2007/01/10/ayephone/</link>
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		<title>by: Dan Wilson &#187; Blog Archive &#187; iPhone Illumination</title>
		<link>http://www.cianw.co.uk/2007/01/10/ayephone/#comment-4581</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 11:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] Here you go: Why ayePhone. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Here you go: Why ayePhone. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Dan Wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.cianw.co.uk/2007/01/10/ayephone/#comment-4532</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 17:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Thank god someone thought to explain this: I was rather lost, confused, despondent...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank god someone thought to explain this: I was rather lost, confused, despondent&#8230;
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		<title>by: flutter</title>
		<link>http://www.cianw.co.uk/2007/01/10/ayephone/#comment-4223</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 17:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>oooooh. I want one...and btw, I am sending out your gift, sorry I hadn't thusfar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oooooh. I want one&#8230;and btw, I am sending out your gift, sorry I hadn&#8217;t thusfar.
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		<title>by: nospam.cian</title>
		<link>http://www.cianw.co.uk/2007/01/10/ayephone/#comment-4005</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 11:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>It is the greatest bit of geekery for a long time. It kicks the PSP out the window. But unless he gets RIM support for Blackberry - will the cityboys carry both?

A V3 Razor on Cingular is $200 on a 2 year contract.  Monthly contract is $60.
A V3 Razor in the UK is free on a 12 month £25 contract.
A sim-free Razor in the UK is £100 and in the US around $249.

So it looks like the Networks in the US barely subsidise the phone with the contract in the US whereas in the UK the cost of the phone is included in around 1/3 of the total contract cost.

So roughly $599 after a 20% subsidy would mean the sim-free US cost of the iPhone is $750 bucks. So about £300 sim free in the UK - which probably won't happen with Apple's international pricing. £400.

So £200-£300 on a 12 month £25 a month contract using back of napkin logic. Given what it can do - PDA, iPod nano, get you laid by Sevitz - it will probably sell by the bucket. And get stolen by the truckload. Daily Mail headline mid 2008 - 'iPhone related crime-wave hits London. Immigration control, MMR and Celebrity Big Brother to blame'</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is the greatest bit of geekery for a long time. It kicks the PSP out the window. But unless he gets RIM support for Blackberry - will the cityboys carry both?</p>
<p>A V3 Razor on Cingular is $200 on a 2 year contract.  Monthly contract is $60.<br />
A V3 Razor in the UK is free on a 12 month £25 contract.<br />
A sim-free Razor in the UK is £100 and in the US around $249.</p>
<p>So it looks like the Networks in the US barely subsidise the phone with the contract in the US whereas in the UK the cost of the phone is included in around 1/3 of the total contract cost.</p>
<p>So roughly $599 after a 20% subsidy would mean the sim-free US cost of the iPhone is $750 bucks. So about £300 sim free in the UK - which probably won&#8217;t happen with Apple&#8217;s international pricing. £400.</p>
<p>So £200-£300 on a 12 month £25 a month contract using back of napkin logic. Given what it can do - PDA, iPod nano, get you laid by Sevitz - it will probably sell by the bucket. And get stolen by the truckload. Daily Mail headline mid 2008 - &#8216;iPhone related crime-wave hits London. Immigration control, MMR and Celebrity Big Brother to blame&#8217;
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		<title>by: Adrian</title>
		<link>http://www.cianw.co.uk/2007/01/10/ayephone/#comment-3965</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 00:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I want one almost more than I want a girlfriend.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kottke.org/07/01/the-apple-iphone&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;It's not small but no bigger than it should be&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=2370&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Oh god it looks good&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=2371&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;So so so damn good.&lt;/a&gt;

Oh god it's like techie sex.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want one almost more than I want a girlfriend.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kottke.org/07/01/the-apple-iphone" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker ('/outbound/comment/www.kottke.org');">It&#8217;s not small but no bigger than it should be</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=2370" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker ('/outbound/comment/www.appleinsider.com');">Oh god it looks good</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=2371" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker ('/outbound/comment/www.appleinsider.com');">So so so damn good.</a></p>
<p>Oh god it&#8217;s like techie sex.
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		<title>by: Adrian</title>
		<link>http://www.cianw.co.uk/2007/01/10/ayephone/#comment-3964</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 23:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>It'll sell.

And you know by god you want one.

It doesn't need to be expandable it's syncs for bliming heck and it has a 4-8 gb drive.

It'll sell to iPod people who have a phone. It'll then creep in on the non corporate blackberry market. 

Actually are you telling me ever exec in the world wont want one?</description>
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<p>And you know by god you want one.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t need to be expandable it&#8217;s syncs for bliming heck and it has a 4-8 gb drive.</p>
<p>It&#8217;ll sell to iPod people who have a phone. It&#8217;ll then creep in on the non corporate blackberry market. </p>
<p>Actually are you telling me ever exec in the world wont want one?
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